2019-20 Proposed rule changes

[atlantagm]

Con additions make a big impact, especially if there are a lot of them. If over the course of 5 seasons we are increasing multiple players CON value by 40-50 points, its just outrageous/unrealistic.

Guys who stick around the NHL become more consistent over the course of their career but I'd like to limit how much/how often/how many players would get this. Again, I think the file is basically OK as is.

[atlantagm]

If we're thinking of this logically and in a way we can all vote upon, I see this as the way forward. Stephen, I'm happy to set this all up, just let me know. After we know how many GMs respond here (and perhaps make it a mandatory activity check?) we can then ask follow up questions/options. I'm thinking a "low, medium, high" improvements plan for players, values to choose for injury slider increase, values for booms/busts in the draft, etc.

All GM-less teams should get the player rewards automatically and again, we can track them via a google doc.



VOTE SET 1

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Vote 1a:  Agree to CON, POT, Leadership, and Penalty ratings improvements for players, based on activity and in-game actions?
 - YES
 - NO

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Vote 1b:  Agree to using EHM Version 1.15b to generate drafts (will result in stronger draft classes)?
 - YES
 - NO

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Vote 1c:  Agree to Deferred Retirement option for players?
 - YES
 - NO

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Vote 1d:  Agree to increase injury slider? Currently "100", Minimum is "0" and Maximum is "200"?
 - YES
 - NO

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Vote 1e:  Agree to more booms/busts in the draft?
 - YES
 - NO

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Vote 1f:  Agree to "Interim GM" for teams that do not have a GM?
 - YES
 - NO

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We can provide a boost for participating in these votes, e.g. +5 CON to one player if you vote in all 6 questions.

[lebas]

1a yes minus pot and penalty rating
1b no
1c no
1d yes
1e no
1f yes

[Deleted]

Feb 1, 2017 23:22:11 GMT atlantagm said:

If we're thinking of this logically and in a way we can all vote upon, I see this as the way forward. Stephen, I'm happy to set this all up, just let me know. After we know how many GMs respond here (and perhaps make it a mandatory activity check?) we can then ask follow up questions/options. I'm thinking a "low, medium, high" improvements plan for players, values to choose for injury slider increase, values for booms/busts in the draft, etc.

All GM-less teams should get the player rewards automatically and again, we can track them via a google doc.



VOTE SET 1

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Vote 1a:  Agree to CON, POT, Leadership, and Penalty ratings improvements for players, based on activity and in-game actions?
 - YES
 - NO

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Vote 1b:  Agree to using EHM Version 1.15b to generate drafts (will result in stronger draft classes)?
 - YES
 - NO

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Vote 1c:  Agree to Deferred Retirement option for players?
 - YES
 - NO

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Vote 1d:  Agree to increase injury slider? Currently "100", Minimum is "0" and Maximum is "200"?
 - YES
 - NO

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Vote 1e:  Agree to more booms/busts in the draft?
 - YES
 - NO

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Vote 1f:  Agree to "Interim GM" for teams that do not have a GM?
 - YES
 - NO

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We can provide a boost for participating in these votes, e.g. +5 CON to one player if you vote in all 6 questions.

Vote 1a: Agree to CON, POT, Leadership, and Penalty ratings improvements for players, based on activity and in-game actions?

- YES (although please no POT changes)

Vote 1b: Agree to using EHM Version 1.15b to generate drafts (will result in stronger draft classes)?

- YES (please note though the word "strong" is relative, "different" may be the correct term. IIRC 1.15b is not great on the goalies and physical D men)

Vote 1c: Agree to Deferred Retirement option for players?

- NO (if scrub CSB players are force retired, this should not be an issue + today's NHL most guys are out of the league by 34ish)

Vote 1d: Agree to increase injury slider? Currently "100", Minimum is "0" and Maximum is "200"?

- NO (meh... I just see this as creating more work for Stephen trying to fix lines)

Vote 1e: Agree to more booms/busts in the draft?

- YES
(100% yes with a freaken asterisk... if I had to add only one change to this league, this would be it 100%, my absolute favorite part of the old GHL and always wanted 20+ booms and busts per draft... similar to real life. Also gives picks much more worth than they have currently)

Vote 1f: Agree to "Interim GM" for teams that do not have a GM?

- YES
(pretty much a staple in any EHM league, I would even go so far as award "small" bonuses to GM's that volunteer).

All in all, great stuff boys. Like the open dialog and the attitude of change without getting too crazy.

[jimbo]

1a yes but CON ONLY
1b no
1c no
1d no
1e yes - this will strengthen draft classes, no need to use 1.5b which has its own bugs
1f yes

[SensGM]

Feb 1, 2017 23:22:11 GMT atlantagm said:

If we're thinking of this logically and in a way we can all vote upon, I see this as the way forward. Stephen, I'm happy to set this all up, just let me know. After we know how many GMs respond here (and perhaps make it a mandatory activity check?) we can then ask follow up questions/options. I'm thinking a "low, medium, high" improvements plan for players, values to choose for injury slider increase, values for booms/busts in the draft, etc.

All GM-less teams should get the player rewards automatically and again, we can track them via a google doc.



VOTE SET 1

---

Vote 1a:  Agree to CON, POT, Leadership, and Penalty ratings improvements for players, based on activity and in-game actions?
 - YES
 - NO

---

Vote 1b:  Agree to using EHM Version 1.15b to generate drafts (will result in stronger draft classes)?
 - YES
 - NO

---

Vote 1c:  Agree to Deferred Retirement option for players?
 - YES
 - NO

---

Vote 1d:  Agree to increase injury slider? Currently "100", Minimum is "0" and Maximum is "200"?
 - YES
 - NO

---

Vote 1e:  Agree to more booms/busts in the draft?
 - YES
 - NO

---

Vote 1f:  Agree to "Interim GM" for teams that do not have a GM?
 - YES
 - NO

---

We can provide a boost for participating in these votes, e.g. +5 CON to one player if you vote in all 6 questions.

I think we have to be careful as we are now running the risk of overly complicating simple things.  We should not need to use a google docs spreadsheet etc to track anything. We will create a section on the forums for teams to post the increases that have been achieved.  The pot increases apply only to players with a pot less then 7, con increases stop at 80.  If a player gets 20+ Con increase in one season then so what....increases stop at 80. None of the reward ideas will skew the players file at all to be perfectly honest.  No superstars or even star players will be created from them. The effects of con has been debated ad nauseam and after all these years I can honestly say increase a player to a maximum of 80 will not badly affect the league.

 

1a - yes 
1b - yes - lets try it for this off season and then evaluate the results and whether we should continue
1c - yes
1d - no
1e - yes
1f - yes - Why is this even a vote? All GMless teams are actually already being cared for. We have done this in the GHL since its original inception.  Not trying to be a prick but this should not be a voting option. 

[atlantagm]

I didn't think people would actually start responding -- I wanted to make sure that Stephen was good with it. He is the boss and I'm just offering to do some of the background work to move it forward. Hold your votes! Let's make sure bossman is onboard!

[lebas]

Lol should have maybe sent him an IM then lol made it sound like these were legit option

[BluesGM]

A) Yes, but only CON, Leadership and Penalty
B) Yes
C) Yes...many franchise players retire too early in this game
D) Yes...bump it to 120. not enough injuries
E)  No...with the incentives coming into play, I think we already have enough boom/busts
F) Yes...but I don't think these GMs should receive any extra incentives for doing so

[BluesGM]

from the looks of it, we should also add incentives for GMs that make all their own picks during the draft

[Stephen (League Admin)]

Thanks for continuing the discussion on this.

The draft:
I tried to use 1.15b last time but maybe I got it wrong. This time I am going to run 1.15b and 1.16 alongside each other until the new players are out and then we can compare files. We'll run with the 1.15b what ever the outcome is as there is no way I can duplicate randomised game decisions on two files, but it will let us see if it works or not and we can move forward on the next draft from there.

Pot Increase:
I would still like to use Potential increases as a reward, but I will limit it to a maximum increase to Potential 7 and limit it to under 21's. That shouldn't create any superstars but could help with a bit of depth on teams that the draft isn't.

Ceiling Increase:
Sorry, not going to happen. We tried this in the last league and we couldn't get it right. We just ended up with teams of 99 stat players all over the place. I don't want to risk that happening again.

Boom and Busts:
I increased the Booms last season from 8 to 10 and kept the busts to 4. I'll stick with that this year as I think 10 is a good amount.

Game sliders:
I'll increase the sliders for injuries to 120, but GM's will need to keep track of their lines and injuries.
I also want to increase penalty and fighting sliders to 140.

GM Less teams:
I think i've managed them pretty well this season, other than trades, but thats because i'm abysmal at trades. Any help would be appreciated. Better yet, new GM's people. We'll talk about this more over the off season as I do want to reward activity, help, recruitment etc but not sure how just yet. We are probably looking at 10 GM less teams this season, which is the highest we've ever had. I'm not sure where we can recruit from. Suggestions?

Rewards:
This is a revised version of what I want to do. I've lowered the Pot limit to 7 as mentioned above and removed the rewards for Pro team finishing places.
I'll leave the con maximum level at 80 for now and may look at increasing it next season if we find its not enough this season.

Award	Reason	Reward
Player of the Week Player of the Month Rookie of the Month Milestone Reached Media Glorifies - Limited to one per week Positive Captains Meeting Positive Outcome on next game AHL Team 1st Place AHL Team 2nd Place AHL Team 3rd Place AHL Team 4th Place AHL team 5th Place GM of the Season GM Activity Awards Player Nominations Player Winning Awards Voting GMs Rookie Boosts	Game Generated Game Generated Game Generated Game Generated Game Generated Game Generated If player who met with Captain has a game rating of 7 in preceeding match AHL League Standings AHL League Standings AHL League Standings AHL League Standings AHL League Standings End of season voting Noteable Extra board activity End of Season voting End of Season voting End of Season voting Activity Pre-season activity for rookie players only	1 Con Points - mentioned player only 3 Con Points - mentioned player only 3 Con Points - mentioned player only 1 Con Points - mentioned player only 3 Con Points - any player(s) - 1 point each 2 Con Points - mentioned player only 2 Leadership Points - Captain Only 15 Con Points 12 Con points 09 Con points 06 Con points 03 Con points Given to players with 60+ AHL games - max 3 points each 1 Pot points - any player under 21 with less than 7 potential 1 Pot points - any prospect with less than 7 potential 1 Con points - mentioned player only 2 Con points - mentioned player only 9 Con points - any players - max 3 points each 1 Con points - per rookie - max 5, per set of lines sent in - max 4.

[BluesGM]

Stephen, regarding the game versions for the draft. you switch to 1.15b before the rollover that brings us into the new season where all the contracts expire and players hit free agency (brings us to the end of August). The new draft class is created during that rollover

[lebas]

Are the AHL awards for players on the farm or anyone?

[Stephen (League Admin)]

Any players with 60+ AHL games that season.

[Deleted]

Question: is the cap changing?