2018 Rules Discussion

[BluesGM]

You know the drill. Bring up any potential new rules, or discuss rules that are currently in place

We had a couple rule proposals from last season that people were interested in, but we never really got a final ruling on from our Commish:


1) waiting until the end of the season to input goalie shutout CON boosts(This seems to be in place)
2) changing RFA offer sheet compensation
3) updating the draft lottery system to reflect the one the NHL currently uses
4) releasing RFAs to free agency after they have been unsigned for 1 season

Other ones were

5) Using your POT bonus (if you get one and if they get posted, double rewards this season folks) to increase a players size so they dont get the Hit penalty.
6) Changing a forwards prefered position (no cost). Ie if you want a player to have center listed, i'll do that. Makes roster management easier.

[dallasgm]

Can we get rid of that rule that sends the starter to the farm team for over playing? I mean thats just dumb. The NHL does not even have these type of rules..

There isn't actually a rule for doing that. The rule is that you should have 3 goalies on your farm team, so if your starting goalie reaches the game limit, the 3rd goalie can be bought up. Where teams only have 2 goalies on their farm team we can't do that and have to send a starter down. Personally, I would fast sign a goalie to the team, unless there were cap issues.

[dallasgm]

Also we should have a goalies game played thread.

I will go back to the old way and post the names and teams of goalies getting close to their limit along side the results.

[BluesGM]

Jan 23, 2020 4:27:45 GMT dallasgm said:

Can we get rid of that rule that sends the starter to the farm team for over playing? I mean thats just dumb. The NHL does not even have these type of rules..

Well, this is not the NHL. I can understand where you're coming from but we have a goalie games played limit of 72 games, so this rule is in place to stop those goalies from going over the limit. For teams that are playoff bound, for every game they play over the limit, they can't play in the playoffs. I guess this rule is more so for non-playoff teams, because their goalies going over the limit means nothing for them, so there has to be some sort of "penalty" for doing so

I say keep it in for that reason

[BluesGM]

Jan 23, 2020 4:28:37 GMT dallasgm said:

Also we should have a goalies game played thread.

Not really necessary IMO. You're in charge of your team...we shouldnt have to make a thread to continually remind you of the 72 game limit. 

Besides, Stephen usually sends out reminders on the board when you start getting close to the limit 

[chris8185]

Obviously I would love to see injuries decreased. Had my #1 C and #1 D go out for 4-5 months a week into the season, then later in the year lost my #2 C and #2 RW for 2 months each. Losing this many guys for that long of a period of time in an ehm league is ridiculous to me. Would love see that reduced greatly going into the next season.

[BluesGM]

Jan 23, 2020 23:03:54 GMT chris8185 said:

Obviously I would love to see injuries decreased. Had my #1 C and #1 D go out for 4-5 months a week into the season, then later in the year lost my #2 C and #2 RW for 2 months each. Losing this many guys for that long of a period of time in an ehm league is ridiculous to me. Would love see that reduced greatly going into the next season.

I understand that you've had bad luck from the injuries, but they are part of the game. It makes an otherwise simple game more complicated because it forces you to have depth. Everyone gets hit with the injury bug. I was lucky last season, but this season, I lost 2 top players to significant injuries

I say we keep it as it is

[chris8185]

I have no problem with the amount of injuries, just the overall length of them. This is supposed to be for fun remember. Losing a bunch of your best players for full seasons sucks a lot of the fun out of it. I just want the total length of injuries reduced to maybe like 2 months at the absolute maximum.

I think that is a fair point and that we should give it consideration. I am in favour of it for the simple reason, it is supposed to be fun not frustrating. I appreciate the team managment side of the game is a part of the game and it should be about building strength in depth, but the reality is, teams are running minimum teams on maximum salary and injuries can have a massive impact as a result.

[Stephen (League Admin)]

In regards to RFA compensation, we already lowered it massively and it didnt make a difference, so we are going to lower it again as I dont like seeing good players RFA on teams that have not managed their cap properly.

Current Levels are:

Below $1,000,000 no compensation
Over $1,000,000 to $2,000,000 1 fourth rounder & 1 fifth rounder
Over $2,000,000 to $3,000,000 1 third round & 1 fourth round
Over $3,000,000 to $4,000,000 1 second rounder & 1 third rounder
Over $4,000,000 to $5,000,000 2 second rounders
Over $5,000,000 to $6,500,000 1 first rounder & 1 second rounder
Over $6,500,000 2 first rounders & 1 second rounder (split years)

New Levels Suggested

Below $1,000,000 no compensation
Over $1,000,000 to $2,000,000 1 fifth rounder this years draft
Over $2,000,000 to $3,000,000 1 fourth round this years draft
Over $3,000,000 to $4,000,000 2 third rounders this years draft and next years draft
Over $4,000,000 to $5,000,000 2 second rounders next years draft and 3rd year drafts
Over $5,000,000 to $6,500,000 1 first rounder & 1 second rounder next years draft and 3rd year draft
Over $6,500,000 1 first rounders for next years draft & 2 second rounder 3rd and 4th year drafts.

Also, once the regular season has started, you will no longer be able to match offers. So you will have to choose your team carefully or others will be able to nab players.

[Stephen (League Admin)]

RFA's WILL now be released if they go in to a second season.

This will happen in the sim BEFORE UFA biddings start.

[islandersgm]

I would say I agree that goalies should be limited to 72 games. 72 is already a stretch honestly imo but is generous and maintains a degree of realism. For Columbus I missed the last few sims or I would have made sure to swap out my goalie. I apologize about that.

For the injuries, I am on the side of keeping the injuries as they are now. It is part of a game and most NHL teams have multiple injuries they have to deal with each year. If there is a lot of opposition I guess I can see reducing the length of injuries.

For RFA situtions I am glad to see the changes take place and I plan to be active in making offers for RFAs. I hope others are too. I also agree with signing RFAs into UFA after a year. Teams should be looking to sign or move their RFAs

[BluesGM]

OK, so in terms of new rules that have passed:

1) RFAs released to UFAs if remained unsigned passed one season
2) new RFA compensation for offer sheets
3) Using your POT bonus to increase a player's height for players only under the age of 20 (1 POT increase = 1 inch to a max of 6'2")
4) Changing a forwards preferred position (no cost, just send it in an e-mail)

Proposed rules changes that have been denied:

1) Stop sending a goalie to the farm after reaching the 72 game limit

Proposed rule changes that need a final decision:

1) Injuries: Chris believes the length of injuries should be limited (i.e., to 2 months)



With respect to injuries, I am still on board with keeping it how it is. They are a part of the game and make it more challenging. I definitely wouldn't play God an edit the injury time

[SensGM]

1) Absolutely against any change to a rule that keeps a starter that has played 72 games on the pro team. All GM's are actually supposed to have 5 pro goalies signed. There should be no need to fast sign anyone and it is all GM's responsibility to make sure that they do not start more then 72. In fact I actually want the limit changed to 62 max.

2) Understand what Chris is saying about injuries, however, I do not want them changed. I had several over the last few seasons too, however, they are part of the game.

3) I would like for GM's to be able to purchase greed point reductions instead of con points. Limit reductions to say 109 for players 110 and over greed.

[islandersgm]

1. I'd be good with a goalie reduction down to 62. That is much more realistic. It definitely shouldn't be more than 72.

2. I'd also prefer not to limit injuries.

3. I'm good with reducing greed. I also wouldn't mind purchasing to improve the penalty rating

[BluesGM]

Honestly, I'm all for lowering the goalie games limit as well. 62-65...somewhere around there

Buying points to lower greed and increase PEN is a nice idea too