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Post by atlantagm on Feb 5, 2018 18:52:40 GMT
Hi all,
Opening up this thread which I do annually just to see if any changes are being proposed. Personally, I'm quite happy with the way things are rolling from a rules perspective.
The only thing I would like to see, and I'm sure others would agree, is an increase in activity and count of GMs. GMs are the lifeblood of any league, and without them, we are doomed to fail. Frankly speaking, if we lose one or two more GMs, I'm sure questions will be raised on how much this league can continue. Stephen can't manage 15 teams and execute commissioner duties at the same time. That's just unrealistic and he's a busy guy to begin with.
So, being solution-based, I suggest that every GM be responsible for asking around and getting another GM to join. I'd also like to see a boost/reward for that GM if the GM they bring in is active and sticks around for a season. Not to toot my horn, but I brought in RJ and also joined INHL in a "GM-swap" which brought in Ian. I think if we all put in a little effort to get a GM in the league, we could easily get a few to join and be part of our culture here.
I love this league and enjoy my time immensely. Its no secret that I love this file and I think our league is set up very well for current and future success -- its up to us to be a part of the solution, not expecting Stephen to manage 15 teams, sim, and then try to get GMs to join the league (which he does, I see his posts on the TBL forums all the time).
SUGGESTED REWARD:
+1 POT boost to any 6 POT or lower player aged 27 or younger, if your recruiting efforts yield an active (one e-mail per game month) and tenured (one full GHL season) and unique (a.k.a. not yourself pretending to be someone, which we can verify) general manager.
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Post by BluesGM on Feb 5, 2018 19:41:00 GMT
GM swaps with other leagues are great. Unfortunately, I'm not in a position to do that due to other priorities, but I think this should be our main focus since it also helps out other leagues
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Post by Stephen (League Admin) on Feb 5, 2018 22:55:09 GMT
Main focus has to be recruiting people.
As for Rules. I thought this was already in place but it isn't.
If GM's go over the limit of 72 goalie games in a season then that goalie misses the same number of play-off games (assuming their team makes the play-off)
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Post by lebas on Feb 6, 2018 0:11:09 GMT
Every team must trade with me at least once a season, would be my recommendation.
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Post by BluesGM on Feb 6, 2018 2:57:19 GMT
Main focus has to be recruiting people. As for Rules. I thought this was already in place but it isn't. If GM's go over the limit of 72 goalie games in a season then that goalie misses the same number of play-off games (assuming their team makes the play-off) Yes, I was thinking about this one too. GMs should know the 72 goalie game limit, especially ones that have been here for a few seasons. What about some repercussions for GMs that go over the salary cap? I wouldn't say penalize them right away, but maybe something like this: -if they aren't under by game 1 of the season (cause they had plenty of notice to do so): {insert specific penalty, like loss of a 3rd round pick} -if they go over at some point during the season, if they havent fixed it by the next sim: {insert specific penalty, like loss of a 3rd round pick} We need to enforce our rules, and if they aren't followed, there should be penalties for it, otherwise, why have it as a rule? Speaking of rules, I noticed one that's not enforced... Do we want to enforce this or just get rid of it? |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2018 16:28:00 GMT
I think if GM misses 72 games with goalie then G misses whole playoffs. Never understand how that happends.
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Post by atlantagm on Feb 6, 2018 16:34:01 GMT
We can split hairs on the goalie rule all day, if we want. I'm more interested in GM activity and GM recruiting rewards. Then we can worry about if a goalie plays 73 games or not.  |
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Post by lebas on Feb 6, 2018 17:03:43 GMT
Make sweet rewards and Ill make up 20 alter egos to fill the roles and maybe my team can compete with Atlanta
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Post by SensGM on Feb 6, 2018 17:06:23 GMT
Main focus has to be recruiting people. As for Rules. I thought this was already in place but it isn't. If GM's go over the limit of 72 goalie games in a season then that goalie misses the same number of play-off games (assuming their team makes the play-off) Yes, I was thinking about this one too. GMs should know the 72 goalie game limit, especially ones that have been here for a few seasons. What about some repercussions for GMs that go over the salary cap? I wouldn't say penalize them right away, but maybe something like this: -if they aren't under by game 1 of the season (cause they had plenty of notice to do so): {insert specific penalty, like loss of a 3rd round pick} -if they go over at some point during the season, if they havent fixed it by the next sim: {insert specific penalty, like loss of a 3rd round pick} We need to enforce our rules, and if they aren't followed, there should be penalties for it, otherwise, why have it as a rule? Speaking of rules, I noticed one that's not enforced... Do we want to enforce this or just get rid of it? Appreciate the ideas but I have to disagree with penalizing a draft pick when there is a major shortage of GM's. If the league was full and we could get GM's easy then I would be in favour of this. I think we can come up with something that is fair but a little less harsh. As for the minimum salary rule I had honestly hoped that that section would have disappeared once we restarted. I hated that rule in the old league and I hate it still. Can we please just scrap that section? Overall I am with Atlanta in that I think the focus should be on stuff for recruiting GM's and even rewarding activity. |
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Post by lebas on Feb 6, 2018 17:27:58 GMT
I really really dont wanna bring this up but talking to gms who left main concerns was for the most part missed sims and Shatner drafts. I like to poor drafts but it makes rebuilding impossible
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Post by atlantagm on Feb 6, 2018 17:31:50 GMT
OK, so we can solve two or three issues, right?
- GM rewards for activity and recruitment of GMs
- Assistance for Stephen if he will have a missed draft, someone who can backup sim. I've never been a commish and I wouldn't mind helping. But he should choose someone he trusts.
- Discussion around improving draft. Perhaps we bring in more boosts? To me that adds an element of realism - you scout based on the ceiling and if a guy boosts its credit to your personal scouting for seeing the "opportunity"
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Post by BluesGM on Feb 6, 2018 20:38:57 GMT
Yes, I was thinking about this one too. GMs should know the 72 goalie game limit, especially ones that have been here for a few seasons. What about some repercussions for GMs that go over the salary cap? I wouldn't say penalize them right away, but maybe something like this: -if they aren't under by game 1 of the season (cause they had plenty of notice to do so): {insert specific penalty, like loss of a 3rd round pick} -if they go over at some point during the season, if they havent fixed it by the next sim: {insert specific penalty, like loss of a 3rd round pick} We need to enforce our rules, and if they aren't followed, there should be penalties for it, otherwise, why have it as a rule? Speaking of rules, I noticed one that's not enforced... Do we want to enforce this or just get rid of it? Appreciate the ideas but I have to disagree with penalizing a draft pick when there is a major shortage of GM's. If the league was full and we could get GM's easy then I would be in favour of this. I think we can come up with something that is fair but a little less harsh. As for the minimum salary rule I had honestly hoped that that section would have disappeared once we restarted. I hated that rule in the old league and I hate it still. Can we please just scrap that section? Overall I am with Atlanta in that I think the focus should be on stuff for recruiting GM's and even rewarding activity. The loss of draft pick was just an example. What I was trying to get across was that we have rules, but we don't really have any repercussions if anyone breaks those rules so that doesn't stop anyone from actually doing it |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2018 0:10:46 GMT
Most of this has been stated... but just for the sake of reiteration...
- more boom busts in draft, adds a dynamic, excitement and some semblance of chance for a rebuild... hell I am for any type of boost to these drafts
- want to add more GM's, work with the commishes of the other leagues, it's the same pool of finite 40-50 GM's out there and it's possible to run a full league ie. EHEC is currently running 30 GM's... sure add incentives if you want, but I don't think they mean squat, all about A) EHM vet having free time for a new league and B) being interested enough to stick around... just to add to this, a big fan of producing incentives across leagues, could be as simple as Stephen/Dan/Martin offering up a decent reward for running a team in each league
- not as socially adept as Lebas, but heard the same two complaints regarding this league, drafts and missed sims (although I disagree with the missed sims personally, haven't noticed too many)
- but... Stephen needs a helper, for simming plus extras... I mean John @ INHL is a gold standard of what this league needs, someone to part time sim, add some cool ideas and do some general forum moderation, open to whatever but would nominate Joe, seems to be the most passionate guy here and an all around nice guy, plus his team is so stacked he is probably the least likely to ever cheat to get ahead, lol, obviously Sean would be a solid choice too if up to it, think he is pretty much part of the furniture in the GHL he has been around so long.
Either way, Stephen, keep up the great work, never get's said enough the thankless joy you bring to people with this hockey freeware.
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Post by lebas on Feb 7, 2018 1:33:02 GMT
Brett you sound like a kiss arse lol.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2018 4:34:19 GMT
Brett you sound like a kiss arse lol. Ahh Lebas, spitting hot truth as always... but the underlying fact to my points are you couldn't pay me enough to run a league or help run a league, have to show respect for the guys crazy enough to provide the free service. |
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i'll be doing it all on friday as its teh only day off I have at the moment. Sorry, we are down people and its long late shifts at teh moment.