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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2015 3:08:53 GMT
Just a thought and Stephen said to throw it out there. In the other leagues I am in with several other GM's of this league we are allowed to trade underage spots as assets, which a contending team might not need them all and a rebuilding team can use the extra spots, What would the rest of ur guys opinions be on this, i also set up a poll on this.. I am voting Yes
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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2015 4:03:40 GMT
If they were tradeable, it would be for just the one year, yes?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2015 4:34:51 GMT
Yes just for that 1 season
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2015 2:41:47 GMT
14 votes and 30 GM's could be huge benefits for contending and rebuilding teams
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Post by lebas on Jul 7, 2015 2:53:45 GMT
can never have too many trading chips, especially for gms who don't use them
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2015 12:05:29 GMT
I don't see a problem with it, we traded them in my last league. Generally the going rate was a third rounder.
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Post by SensGM on Jul 7, 2015 13:07:48 GMT
Not a fan of this at all but will go with the majority.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2015 16:39:27 GMT
I voted yes, because I feel it could benefit my team, but I also want to be on record saying that I don't think we should have any to begin with. -shrug-
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Post by Stephen (League Admin) on Jul 23, 2015 22:15:47 GMT
Interesting split so far. No need to make a decision yet, lets see if we can get everyone to vote.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2015 9:26:26 GMT
I always like to do based EHM and there's no underager farmers at all.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2015 12:59:07 GMT
I always like to do based EHM and there's no underager farmers at all. I agree, but feel like that either means we need a 3rd option (yes trading, no trading, no spots at all) or a 2nd poll. As I said a while ago, I voted yes because I'm selfish, but I also would rather there were no underage spots period.
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Post by lebas on Jul 24, 2015 15:55:09 GMT
Unfortunately players do not develop at all if they don't play pro or farm in ehm which is extremely unrealistic
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Post by Stephen (League Admin) on Jul 24, 2015 16:15:35 GMT
So should we allow all under 20's on the farm? not a fan of having to do the editing on that one but if players don't develop in the juniors maybe we should open it up.
I know it isn't an issue right now but one issue we had in the old league was a lack of farm players under 30. I suspect we'll hit that problem again at some stage and under 20's could help solve that rather than having to edit poor quality players out of the draft and into ufa.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2015 23:25:58 GMT
So should we allow all under 20's on the farm? not a fan of having to do the editing on that one but if players don't develop in the juniors maybe we should open it up. I know it isn't an issue right now but one issue we had in the old league was a lack of farm players under 30. I suspect we'll hit that problem again at some stage and under 20's could help solve that rather than having to edit poor quality players out of the draft and into ufa. Hmmm... every year there are 5 new players per team added, via the draft, not counting any undrafted players who eventually become UFAs (which I think happens rarely in EHM, but I know it happens sometimes). So the average team should have 50 players aged 20-29 at any one time (5 per year for 10 years), with 23 in the pros and 27 in the farm. I don't know how/why you would have any issues with a lack of U-30 farm players, considering this assumes there are no over-30 players in the pros (which is obviously not going to happen), other than GMs being picky about who they used down there, or some teams hoarding draft picks and other teams trading away all of theirs. Anyway, I know that players do develop in real life in junior, but it's not like it hurts any of them to have to wait a year or two before going to the AHL in game. The discussion surrounding van Riemsdyk saw many people arguing players develop all the way to 27, so why do we need to rush 18 year olds if they have 7 pro years anyway? Plus it adds an extra bit of strategy to the draft, with people choosing between a 17-at-draft who might be a bit better vs a 20-at-draft who can step in sooner. I just think that allowing underagers on the farm makes rebuilding occur much faster. Trade away all your good players, tank for a year or two, then you're right back in there. EHM leagues tend to have this split between the good teams chasing the cup and the crap teams chasing 1st overall, and it kind of gets boring. If you want to rebuild through the draft it should take a few years - and I say this as the current worst team in the league, so it's not like I won't benefit from having underagers.
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